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16 September 2010 @ 11:04 am
Tricksy Actors  
Last night, after I'd already taken my contacts out and got ready for bed, I decided it would be a great idea to just watch a scene from "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum" super quick and jot down some dialogue for the chapter I'm working on.  Then, of course, I had to watch a few scenes from "Confessions and Lamentations."  And then, obviously, a couple scenes from "Divided Loyalties."

So at the end of "Confessions," she's sobbing in his arms.  At the beginning of "Loyalties," they're meeting in front of the Universe Today stand all adorable and coy and with the glances and the standing very close.

Now, I don't know how much was written (I would kill for the script books, I can't even) and how much of that was just performance, but I wouldn't be surprised if the two of them just decided to play it like John and Delenn had slept together.  I'm not even joking.  That's how it plays for me; more that than a woman who just watched hundreds and hundreds of people die and a man who just escorted her back to her quarters.  And now I'm obviously curious as to what everyone else thinks.

(Also: plot bunny.  And I keep yelling at myself, "No new stories!  Work on the many many stories you have already started!")

Also, before I forget - for ghanimasun, all the Photoshop resources I've saved over the years in two zipped files.  :D

Bases and Textures
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xphilehb: B5 - J/D Kissy Facexphilehb on September 17th, 2010 01:37 pm (UTC)
Gosh, now I may just have to go home and watch Confessions followed by Divided Loyalties, just to see what I think. Oh darn.

Edited at 2010-09-17 01:37 pm (UTC)
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on September 17th, 2010 03:53 pm (UTC)
IKR?
nhpwnhpw on September 17th, 2010 02:18 pm (UTC)
I don't get the impression they just slept together, though they are being pretty cute. I think it's more Delenn being all sly, because what happened in the previous episode (the whole "I'll see you again in a place where no shadows fall" and the hand-touching and him holding her while she cried) has confirmed for her that he is, indeed, the right man to be the father of her universe-saving baby. Or MAYBE a first-kiss after-moment. But... slept together, IDK.

Also I'm trying to figure out what you were writing that made "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum" relevant. *is intrigued*

Shannon: b5 delenn lamentationskungfuwaynewho on September 17th, 2010 03:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, well, I should always warn new fandoms about my tendency to watch any TV where I have a ship interest in ways that allow me to speculate on every single time they might possibly have had sex.

You're right story-wise. I think that maybe one could imagine a first-kiss in there, or even just platonic sleeping together. I was mostly just totally amused by how the actors were playing it. There is such a huge disconnect between that scene and the one we see them in together the episode prior - with her breaking down in his arms - that back-to-back it's just kind of jarring. And, you know, hmm-ing.

Writing (and hopefully finishing soon) the next chapter of Metamorphoses. Still.
nhpw: sdalmostkissnhpw on September 17th, 2010 04:08 pm (UTC)
There is such a huge disconnect between that scene and the one we see them in together the episode prior - with her breaking down in his arms - that back-to-back it's just kind of jarring. And, you know, hmm-ing.

Oh, definitely. There's a lot of this, actually, sprinkled throughout the series; JMS was great with the whole 'character arc' thing, but sometimes he did give individual episodes an 'episodic' disconnect ending, if that makes sense. This is one; the other one that immediately jumps to mind is "And the Rock Cried Out..." following the kiss. Every time - EVERY TIME - I sit there and go... "Yes, AND...?" Because, you know. It's not like they talked about it later. ("So, about that thing that just happened that made me think maybe we should date, or something..." - none of that. Ever.) And real people don't just have moments like that, or "Inquisitor", or "Confessions" and then just go about their business. They talk about that shit, yo. Or things get awkward.

But, again. JMS, relationships, allergies, blah blah blah. That's what gapfillers are for, I guess :)

Writing (and hopefully finishing soon) the next chapter of Metamorphoses. Still.

Yay! I hear ya. I'm trying so hard to get my "Six Steps" story finished, and it just keeps... I dunno. It's a word at a time; a few lines at most. I'm stuck on this gift-giving moment, and I've decided I don't know how to write it because my significant other doesn't give me enough presents. :P

Shannon: b5 transitkungfuwaynewho on September 17th, 2010 04:42 pm (UTC)
Because, you know. It's not like they talked about it later. ("So, about that thing that just happened that made me think maybe we should date, or something..." - none of that. Ever.)

You mean like after "Sic Transit Vir?" Or...oh, you already mentioned "Confessions." But yeah. Our kiss gets interrupted and then he tells me that he cares about me and was going to kill a guy over me and can't imagine his world without me...I'm just gonna leave it at that. The hell.

This is why I love post-episode fanfic.
nhpwnhpw on September 17th, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC)
This is why I love post-episode fanfic.

On this note, I have been chasing a plot bunny for post-"Rock" for quite some time.

I cannot decide if it will end in sexytimes (though perhaps that would be best for all concerned ;)) and am mostly just hooked on the title and the first line - John reflecting on the different ways there are to kiss a woman. So I ask you, who watches shippy stuff and can catch the little LOOKS that say, "We totally had sex last night" that I sometimes miss - did John and Delenn do the horizontal polka between "Rock" and "Shadow Dancing"? :P

(Muse!JMS pipes up, "Yes, they did, and they did it on the bridge of the White Star, with all the other ships still watching. Because I like that voyeurism shit." Shaddup, JMS. You had your chance for a vote when you wrote this and you FAILED - now it's up to the fandom.)
Shannon: b5 john smileskungfuwaynewho on September 17th, 2010 06:56 pm (UTC)
So I ask you, who watches shippy stuff and can catch the little LOOKS that say, "We totally had sex last night" that I sometimes miss - did John and Delenn do the horizontal polka between "Rock" and "Shadow Dancing"? :P

I know we've talked about it before, but I can't see a man who's already been intimate with a woman making this face when she tells him they're going to spend the night together:



Right? Unless we want to fanwank that he thought Delenn was very ladylike and demure and the fact she was so upfront about it just plain surprised him.

But then this face...



...kinda makes me think he already got some of that. As it were.
nhpwnhpw on September 17th, 2010 07:27 pm (UTC)
That's right. And then in comparison to the Racing Mars face that says, "OMFG, She's finally going to let me touch her boobies." Mixed signals are a bitch.

We'll see. It was a cute and fluffy plot bunny that I laid aside a long time ago. I dunno if he wants to play anymore.
ghanima sun: j/dghanimasun on September 18th, 2010 03:49 am (UTC)
Eeep, I somehow totally missed this post till now, SORRY!

I definitely should be rewatching some B5, because I'm still at the point where I don't know the episodes by name, but I will try to give the ones you mentioned a rewatch soon. (Because John and Delenn action? Awesome. So glad I've found other shippers!)

Thank you so much for those links, I am going to check them out in full tomorrow. I am sure they will be awesome though, because the few things you've shared with me so far are already incredibly helpful. You rock :)
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on September 18th, 2010 12:10 pm (UTC)
Oh no you came to this post a day after I posted it! Kill yourself!

:D

I can only remember the episode titles of the ones where I've sat down and rewatched all the shippy parts. So.
ghanima sun: oopsghanimasun on September 21st, 2010 02:26 am (UTC)
A response, late again! I haven't actually been busy, but I've been distracted from responding. I still haven't downloaded any of those PS resources you so kindly shared. I'm hoping to get to it after work tomorrow though!
ghanima sun: fringe - brown bettyghanimasun on September 23rd, 2010 01:41 am (UTC)
I'm finally looking at your PS resournces. Just curious what version of PS you use? None of the brushes will load for me, but it's probably because I'm using PS6.
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on September 23rd, 2010 01:54 am (UTC)
Ah, I'm using PS7. If you ever want to upgrade, let me know, and I can mail you a copy of the disc. I don't know how to rip the ISO or whatever to just put it up for download.

I keep thinking one of these days I'll try to hunt around for a newer version, but eh.
ghanima sun: yayghanimasun on September 23rd, 2010 01:58 am (UTC)
Well the fonts and gradients all worked perfectly, so it's pretty weird.

Also THANK YOU SO MUCH! I am already excited to play with the new fonts and everything else! I can upload a file of all my textures if you're interested, but that's pretty much all I have to share!
Shannon: drh brand newkungfuwaynewho on September 23rd, 2010 02:00 am (UTC)
Honestly, I don't use the brushes as much as I used to, and a lot of them are very "I was really into making grunge-y icons in 2004," so it may not be that big a loss, heh.

If it's no trouble, I would love new textures! I haven't gone out looking for new resources in awhile, and I get really bad about using the same dozen textures and light effects over and over, heh.
ghanima sun: awesomeghanimasun on September 23rd, 2010 02:04 am (UTC)
I've actually never used brushes much before, so it's no big loss to me anyway!

I'm going to try uploading my textures now (before I forget) using that same site you used. I'll let you know when I finally figure it out and have them posted :)
ghanima sun: geekyghanimasun on September 23rd, 2010 02:37 am (UTC)
You will notice that the folder is completely unorganized, sorry about that!
Okay, let's see if I have any of this right.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/iw7j53