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09 December 2010 @ 09:17 pm
Full of Ennui  
That was a beautiful and heartbreaking episode, and I can't argue with any one thing.  Everyone was in character, and it makes sense that Olivia would react that way.  But goddamnit if that is not exactly how I figured this whole thing would go down way back after last year's season finale; Peter wouldn't know Fauxlivia was faux, Olivia would come back and feel betrayed, and she wouldn't want to be with him.

It's not that it was the wrong dramatic choice, or that it won't end up working, but it just feels like such a cliché.  Doesn't every show do this?  Doesn't every show play off the UST of their leads, and tease a romance, only to find ways to throw wrenches into the works?  It just feels like a cheap way to generate tension.  I'm not arguing that Olivia should have been fine and dandy with it - I was actually, halfway through, thinking that Peter might be the one to want to take a step back, feeling guilty for not knowing, feeling like maybe he was the one who was wrong, and I was actually okay with that; at least that would have been something different.

I don't know.  I just find myself caring a little bit less about their relationship, because I don't know if this is an organic move or if this is just one of those TV things.  Don't get them together too soon; then it becomes too domestic and boring and Bingo Moonlighting comments, etc., etc.  So just feeling kind of disconcerted and wondering if I should forget about shipping for awhile.

Also, and this may just be me not being like a super super fan with an encyclopedic knowledge of the show, but does OurBroyles usually refer to himself as Colonel Broyles?  When he did so, it seemed like Peter looked at Olivia, but then nothing else happened.  My sister and I were talking about it because we were immediately like "whathafa?" and that we thought he always referred to himself as Lieutenant Broyles or Agent Broyles.  I don't know.  I'm confused.
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14 lines of iambic pentameter: peter/oliviasonneta on December 10th, 2010 03:31 am (UTC)
Yeah, I kind of agree with you on the ship thing - the way the writers *have* to keep the Main Pairing apart. I was so excited when they got to kiss at the end of s. 2, because that's so early, etc. And then of course the writers pretty much immediately threw a wrench into the works with alt!Liv. I guess I was hoping against hope that Peter would figure it out or that he was conning her or *something* that wouldn't be quite so cliche as what we got. Sigh. This is why we have fanfic, I suppose.
Shannon: fringe almost kisskungfuwaynewho on December 10th, 2010 03:35 am (UTC)
I was so excited when they got to kiss at the end of s. 2, because that's so early, etc.

Exactly! I was like, oh, they are going to do something different! This is going to be something other than the standard X-Files Model for Main Leads Who Love Each Other But Work Together and Therefore Sublimate Feelings and Wacky Things Keep Them Apart (c.f. every other show ever).

And then...not so much.

But then I'm like, but this was so well done! And well acted, and poignant and angsty and there are possibilities and maybe Peter will be looking at her with longing and so on and so on. Fringe has made my insides all jumbly.
enigmaticbluesenigmaticblues on December 10th, 2010 03:48 am (UTC)
Oh, man. I am RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. I feel like about every show I'm watching is finding reasons to keep Pairing A apart, and I just want to scream and throw things. It's not that it's the wrong choice for every show; it's just that it feels like the SAME choice. Seriously, shows! CHANGE IT UP.
Shannon: pd emerson rolls eyeskungfuwaynewho on December 10th, 2010 03:57 am (UTC)
Sometimes I'm like, jeez, just DON'T PAIR THEM UP THEN. Don't tease it, don't play with it, don't do it and take it back and do it and take it back; if you don't want your leads to get together, then DON'T GET THEM TOGETHER.

This is one of the reasons I ended up so in love with John/Delenn. I have literally never ever ever seen a relationship play out like that on TV before.
ghanima sun: fringeghanimasun on December 10th, 2010 05:08 am (UTC)
I sort of agree. I wouldn't even mind if they just dropped it after this, and Olivia never wants to get back together ever. Or if they just got together and be together. Because that's not actually a bad thing at all!! Blah, this not getting people together is so old hat, and annoying. /rant

I was slightly disappointed with this episode. I didn't hate it or anything, I was just expecting more. More character stuff, less case of the week crap.

I remember Broyles calling himself Colonel in the season 2 opener, but I don't think it's something he uses much. I thought maybe he just called himself that when he was on the phone to give himself more authority to whoever he was on the phone with so they would listen to him faster.
Shannon: fringe archeskungfuwaynewho on December 10th, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
I was slightly disappointed with this episode. I didn't hate it or anything, I was just expecting more. More character stuff, less case of the week crap.

That's how I felt about last week's episode, strangely enough. I was much more interested in this case of the week, and thought it was tied into all the character stuff really well without being too on-the-nose about it.

I remember Broyles calling himself Colonel in the season 2 opener, but I don't think it's something he uses much.

Ah, okay. I couldn't remember him ever being called that Over Here, but while I like Broyles I'm not a huge super fan of him so I just wasn't sure if I had missed it. Still, that quick cut to Peter looking at Olivia right after Broyles said it kind of added to my feeling that it was kind of weird. IDK.
a universal sigh: Fringe - Peter/Olivia - live longnaushika on December 10th, 2010 06:58 am (UTC)
It was pretty much a given that they would definitely then break them back apart and put it back to UST. But I'm not too bitter about it, because I think on a character basis, Olivia would need that healing time anyway. I'm just hoping it doesn't now take 4 seasons for them to get back together, know what I mean? Like they take some time, get to know each other again.. and then get together this season finale! That would work for me. :D

If I were gonna get too upset about it, I could basically never watch tv again, because that is pretty much how it always goes.. Fringe has given us a lot more relationship-wise than most shows I've watched have by this point, so I'm grateful for that at least. Compare to Bones, which is in its 6th season, and the leads are STILL not together, lol.

I dunno about the colonel Broyles thing! I never pay attention to that stuff.
Shannon: fringe blue pinkkungfuwaynewho on December 10th, 2010 12:56 pm (UTC)
It's funny, because I've never been a huge Olivia/Peter shipper; I like them together well enough, but it's far from my focus when I watch. So it's not like "waaah they broke up what am I even watching Fringe for now?" - I think I'm disappointed precisely because it was a given and they went there anyway.

But I actually am not worried about the outcome at all. I have no doubt that the writers will milk the angst for the rest of the season and by the finale someone will tell the other that they love them only for something bad to happen to externally keep them apart over the hiatus.

I've shipped my fair share of characters that have fallen into what I call the Ross and Rachel trap, and it can be annoying, but I try to not let it interfere with the rest of my viewing experience. I figure if I'm only watching a show for a ship and it's not working out, I should stop watching it - and if I'm watching the show because I enjoy the whole thing and the ship is just part of that, then I shouldn't let it ruin the experience.