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21 March 2012 @ 09:14 am
Blood and Chrome trailer  
ETA: I did have the trailer here, but NBC already yanked it.  Because those are the command decisions networks make!  "Hey dude, let's make a teaser trailer to promote our new show."  "On it, bro."  "That looks great!"  "Oh no, people are watching it on the internet."  "Well take it down, obvs, we don't want anyone to watch it."

Sigh.  I'm sure it's already been reuploaded, so just try searching for it.

ufgator1977 posted this earlier today - I hadn't seen it yet.  I am very conflicted.  On the one hand, this looks amazing and very cool and look at all the spaceships and Cylons and yay!

On the other hand, I still blame this show for the cancellation of Caprica.  And to me, you can see that network decision-making process explicit in this trailer.  Caprica failed not because the network jerked it around, put it on a long hiatus, changed the premiere date with little advance notice, etc., but because it had girrrrrls in it!  Yuck!  And people were talking all the time.  About stuff!  But Blood and Chrome is going to succeed because it's about boys!  Who fight!  And shoot things!  And blow them up!  Pew-pew, ba-dow ba-dow! 

And then I watch the trailer again.  Because it's cool.  (And why will no one let themselves understand that girls like shit blowing up, too?)  And then I remember my poor dear Caprica, whose last chunk of episodes I still haven't watched because I was so bummed by the cancellation that I couldn't bring myself to do it.  And this way, I still have new Caprica to (someday) watch.

But I miss BSG and this is kinda like new BSG.

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Holly: BSG Bold minded battle menhollywobbles on March 21st, 2012 02:43 pm (UTC)
Humph. Judgy Holly is judging this show. With its monster-alien things and its over-focus on action and whatnot. Judge. Judge.

I think I saw at least one or two actioney ladies in there, though. Yes?
Shannon: bsg duck mirrorkungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, there are some ladies in there. I'm just saying the general media consensus of Caprica as a talky girl show instead of an actiony boy show. (Since, you know, Caprica had THREE WHOLE REGULAR CHARACTERS who were women and SOMETIMES HAD SCENES WITH EACH OTHER.)
Holly: A/R Battlestar Galacticahollywobbles on March 21st, 2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
Arg, it just bugs me that everything what I liked about BSG -- the combination of action with thinky stuff and emotion, and a dedication to general quality -- seems to be missing. Like how EJO would only sign on if there was something in his contract about there not being any aliens; that became sort of symbolic in my mind of their standard of quality, and now in this show they appear to be doing exactly what he wanted to avoid: going the easy route by appealing to everyone's base reactions with scary slithery aliens. It's like they took a look at Caprica and instead of looking at any problems in quality the show might have had in trying to be a successful version of what it was, or at any mistakes they might have been making in managing it, they said, huh, this must just be too thinky, and they overcorrected. I am just not very excited about B&C. :/ They explored the ideas of BSG pretty fully in BSG, and I feel like they'd either better tackle a new set of philosophical problems just as skillfully and well while also providing the same levels of action, sex, and emotion, or they're just not going to have the same audience as they did for BSG no matter what, and they're not bothering to acknowledge that, and it frustrates me.

Classic sequel syndrome, I guess.


Edited at 2012-03-21 07:57 pm (UTC)
Shannon: bsg adama profilekungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
I love this comment. :D (Not so much for the content, although I do obviously agree with you, but just for the fact of its existence. This is why I love TV, this right here.)

I am trying to give B&C the benefit of the doubt, and that obviously they are going to market it in such a way as to highlight what Syfy thinks SF fans (read: boys) want. But yeah, you'd think there'd be at least some hint of some deeper meaning beyond "shoot aliens and robots."

The only problem Caprica had in quality, once it got past its first few shaky episodes (and very few shows come out of the gate knowing exactly what to do) was that it was a very morose and depressing show, and that theme was echoed in the pacing. Now, I loved it, and thought they did it extremely well, but I can kind of see maybe why the ratings were a bit low. I just wish there were a place for that kind of storytelling on TV.
Halima: ♁ tell me everythingcartography on March 21st, 2012 03:42 pm (UTC)
Haven't watched the trailer yet, and I have a feeling it's going to take me a while to get around to the new show, just like it took me a while to get around to Caprica. But it's BSG, and I'll watch it eventually. Even if there are no girls. (Insert sad pathetic tears here.)

But duuuude. You really want to watch the rest of Caprica. You really, really do. The last five minutes of the finale are perhaps my favourite five minutes of television ever.
Shannon: bsg ellenkungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
Maybe when I finally get moved in to the new house and settled, I'll have time to watch all the TV I don't get around to these days.

It took me at least five episodes to get into Caprica, but once I did, I was hooked. And thennnn it was promptly canceled.

WTF is your icon bro.
Halima: ♁ that the faith has failed uscartography on March 21st, 2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
Hah, sounds like yet another thing to look forward to about the new house. :)

Yup, same here, except I gave up too quickly (I think after only three or four eps) and then refused to watch it for a whole year, I think. Until after the finale had aired, in any case. At least I got to watch it all in one go, and then made myself feel better by writing fic. Plus, and maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't care, I actually thought the way it wrapped it all up was, while obviously rushed, really well done. So I don't have very many misgivings about it being cancelled, other than, you know, the fact that POLLY WALKER isn't on my screen every week.

It's Clariiiice! And Amanda! Well, it's Clarice's hands (and ring) and Amanda's hair. From the hugging scene early on.
Shannon: got catelynkungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 07:41 pm (UTC)
Heh, I recognize the ring now.

I'm actually one of those odd-duck fans who has a harder time when a show goes out on top and is wrapped up well, rather than going on too long and limping to a disgraceful finish, because I just keep thinking, but there could still be good episodes! And I just stew over what might have been.

I'm still upset that Polly Walker isn't going to be Melisandre. I had totally convinced myself that she was based on absolutely nothing at all, and when the actual casting announcement came out I was crushed.
Halima: ✳ winter is comingcartography on March 21st, 2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
Oh, well that's something else! I've never heard anyone say that, I don't think, hah. I mean, I'm the same in so far as I obviously want more episodes of a show that was good, but if they managed to wrap it up well, I'll at least be able to think 'But at least they gave us the ending I'd been hoping for, or had X and Y get together, or made it just fit in terms of story development' etc etc. Like with B5, for example! (I, err, may have started my rewatch last night. And I may or may not already be looking forward to the ending, in as much as everyone ever looks forward to an ending.) It will never not hurt, but I still think it terms of story and plot and characterisation, it was a fairly flawless ending. My counter-example here would be Lie to Me that just... ended when it was cancelled, in the middle of a season, even, without us ever getting any kind of closure. And don't even get me started on Lost! And if a show isn't wrapped up well (no matter the reason), it makes me less likely to want to dabble in fandom. Stargate, which is another example of good endings, imho, also didn't really wrap anything up, but it went out the same way the entire show had been, which I loved. And from all the fandoms I've been active in, that one held me the longest, with BSG coming in second. Lie to Me? Not a chance. Lost? Eh, lil bit, but never much. But obviously, it's different for everyone.

Ah, I still have to read those damn books one of these days. But yes, I've heard a lot of people say that, actually! I think there was a whole thing on tumblr where people were almost campaigning for that. Well, that, and Mira Furlan as somebody I also don't know, but of course I automatically approved. Clearly, fans should have a say in who gets to play what. That's how it should work.
Shannon: got catelynkungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
I had the same problem with Terminator, which wasn't wrapped up, really, because they used the season/series finale to set up the next season that never was, but it ended up being a fairly decent wrap-up nonetheless. But all I think about everytime I rewatch is "No they were going to tell so many great stories and I've missed them forever!" I suppose it is still better than shows that just get yanked, or shows that just end up sucking and leave a bad taste in your mouth, but it still hurts.

If Mira were cast on Game of Thrones I would probably fucking die for real. I actually hope she doesn't get cast in the role everyone's pulling for because that character is super-old and I don't want her made up all super-old. Harumph.

(Hello Stark babies.)
Halima: ☆ that flow of adrenalinecartography on March 21st, 2012 08:34 pm (UTC)
Oh, well that's good to know, for when I watch Terminator. But yes, I understand your point, and even agree. All the while trying not to be too bitter about Lost, hah.

ME TOO. Oh really? Well then, we'd just have to, I don't know, start a petition to let her be her real age. Which is the prettiest anyway.

(SHE'S TWEETING AGAIN. I just cannot deal with this adorableness.)
ruth76ruth76 on March 21st, 2012 05:19 pm (UTC)
I loved BSG and really didn't like Caprica. It just didn't grab me in the same way. I had similar feelings SG1 and Stargate Universe - love the first and the latter just leaves me cold!

I will watch Blood and Chrome just in case it turns out to be as good as BSG, but I'm doubtful it will!
Shannon: b5 logicallykungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
I certainly didn't love Caprica as much as BSG, but I did love it a lot more than a lot of TV, so.

I grouse here, but I know I'll end up watching B&C, LOL.
pausitapausita on March 21st, 2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
I cant see the video!!! ***lagrimas*** damn copyright :@
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Argh! That sucks. I'm sure it'll get put back up on YT - just keep searching for it.
Halima: ★ i'll go get the guncartography on March 21st, 2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
Wait. WAIT. They're actually pulling trailers for copyright now? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Hang on, I need to upload a certain icon for this...
Shannon: b5 commandkungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 07:42 pm (UTC)
IKR!? Like, why even make a trailer?

(I read a fic once (no idea what or where) where Delenn called someone a bastard and someone else commented that she felt that was out of character for Delenn. I didn't say anything, but I was like, LOL. That's as in-character as she gets.)
Halima: ★ we are star stuffcartography on March 21st, 2012 07:57 pm (UTC)
EXACTLY. I'm just gonna file this under 'things I don't need to understand'. And go learn Turkish. Wait, who said that?

(Hahahaha! I wonder if that comment was from before the episode aired... Because hell yes, it would be OOC. But I hear pregnant women do weird things... ;) )

Okay, now I have so many B5 icons uploaded that I can no longer choose which one to use. DILEMMA.

Edited at 2012-03-21 07:58 pm (UTC)
Shannon: b5 mira creditskungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
I just figured the commenter hadn't watched the episode yet, or hadn't watched the show in so long they didn't remember. (How could anyone ever forget "Bastards!" though?)
Halima: ★ she shall be known as entil'zhacartography on March 21st, 2012 08:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah, probably the former. I hope it's not the latter, because really, it's just not possible to forget that scene unless you're a really bad fan (read: not really a fan at all).
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Shannon: bsg opera housekungfuwaynewho on March 21st, 2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
I still can't believe Bear is working in TV. How has he not been snatched up to score features yet?
Ms Dref: North By Northwest vs Star Warsdref22 on March 22nd, 2012 12:58 am (UTC)
But this is not going to be on Syfy anymore. D: They freaking cancelled it already! D:

Kit: fringe | astrid/oliviatictactardis on March 23rd, 2012 02:33 pm (UTC)
"And then I remember my poor dear Caprica, whose last chunk of episodes I still haven't watched because I was so bummed by the cancellation that I couldn't bring myself to do it. And this way, I still have new Caprica to (someday) watch."

This is exactly my thought process, too :[ I never watched that last chunk of episodes 'cause I'm just all sad over losing it.

That was a damn quality show.

That being said, totally on board for Blood & Chrome. Gonna have to stalk down that trailer.