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02 February 2014 @ 03:09 pm
Angry at world right now.  
Absolutely gutted over the news of Philip Seymour Hoffman's death.  He was an astoundingly talented actor, and we lost him far, far too soon.

Fucking drugs.

That coupled with some of the reaction I've seen to Dylan Farrow's open letter, and seeing some actors I previously respected blow her off, has made me want to firebomb the internet.  I'd post a whole long rant, but I just don't have the energy right now.
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Shannon: getting drunkkungfuwaynewho on February 3rd, 2014 03:59 pm (UTC)
When I posted this yesterday, I hadn't read Woody Allen's statement yet. NOW I'M INCANDESCENT.
vjs2259vjs2259 on February 2nd, 2014 11:20 pm (UTC)
I read the letter but skipped the comments. Her eyes are haunting in that picture in the Times.
Shannon: tng picard disappointkungfuwaynewho on February 3rd, 2014 04:00 pm (UTC)
Depending on where you are, the comments can be wonderful; I was reading through ONTD, and nearly everyone was supporting her and rallying around her. The vicarious vitriol was also lovely. I made the mistake of reading on Awards Daily, which is primarily an Oscar site, so I don't know why I was surprised that they made it all about the Oscars and Cate Blanchett's chances, etc., but they did. And that wouldn't have even been that bad, but the misogyny and victim blaming and down-right accusations of lying were enough to make me literally sick to my stomach.

Just ugh.
vjs2259vjs2259 on February 3rd, 2014 09:57 pm (UTC)
I read a bit on this around the net today, the blogs I normally read, as well as some of the older articles from around the time of the custody battle. It was just awful how many pro/con comments fell onto the male/female axis. I don't know what is true, but personally haven't been able to stomach Allen since his marriage to Farrow's daughter Soon-Yi (I think maybe she changed her name?)The heart does what the heart does but you don't have to act on it. Self-denial is the right choice in some cases. There was a case in my immediate family of false accusation of child sexual abuse so I know what kind of hell it puts a family through. But I do believe there are more actual cases than false accusations. More's the pity.

I never liked his movies much, though I went through a phase in college of dressing like Annie Hall. So it's not a problem for me to just not watch him.
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on February 5th, 2014 03:14 am (UTC)
Eh, I don't really worry about false accusations of child molestation, to be honest. The false accusation rate of sexual assault of adult women is on par or less frequent than false reporting of any other crime, and if I remember correctly false reports of child sexual assault are even less frequent than that. Which is not to say zero, but to me, even bringing up that it could be a false accusation is a derailing tactic.

NOT to say that's what you were doing, but I just don't have any patience for it. If anyone reports any other kind of crime, family and friends and law enforcement tend to believe them to begin with, and only suspect it might be a false report if an investigation doesn't turn anything up, things are contradictory, etc. But with any female report of rape/assault? Lord. Like, if you said, "someone stole my car," the cops wouldn't be like, "Are you sure? Maybe you just left the keys out where they ended up enticing someone. Maybe you actually told that guy he could drive your car and he didn't believe you when you changed your mind. You own a bicycle, too; did you ride it earlier that day? Because that changes everything." And so on.

Sorry to rant at you, but it just drives me crazy. Anyone getting falsely accused of anything would put a family through hell, so I don't really know why rape/child molestation charges are the one thing that everyone brings up as like a reason to not just believe the victim immediately.

And the whole thing with Soon-Yi is, to me, just more fuel for the fire. Considering how young she was said to look in the pictures, that WA had known her since she was just 10 years old, the amount of abuse she'd gone through prior to her adoption, her problems with a learning disability and school, I just absolutely cannot believe for a second that he wasn't grooming her long before she came of age. I read today a People Magazine interview with him that someone had dug up from the 70s where he was talking about how someday he might be found in an orgy with 15 12-year-olds. Like, who says that?

Yeah, the whole thing just turns my stomach. Pretty much everyone immediately sided with Jerry Sandusky's victims, even though there was almost the exact same evidence; but with Dylan Farrow, it's like people are pushing each other over to find ways to "prove" she's lying. It drives me crazy, and makes me hate everything.
vjs2259vjs2259 on February 5th, 2014 12:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, I agree with you about the rate of false accusations. And the exception does not prove the rule. The case in my family was investigated, fairly thoroughly although my ex-brother-in-law knew every cop in town, and eventually it was dismissed. Since that time my sister has divorced the guy and we've found out more about him. And now I wonder.

I was on a jury once where the defense actually was that the car couldn't have been stolen since the keys were left in it. The guy got off. But it wasn't the cops pushing that narrative, but the defense attorneys. There was also a chain of evidence; the guy caught driving the car wasn't the one who stole it. He claimed plausible deniability.

I just wish the presumption of innocence went towards the woman instead of the man. Why is a false accusation more of a tragedy than disbelief of a true allegation?

The Soon-Yi thing definitely affects my perception of Dylan's narrative. It was creepy in the best interpretation.
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on February 6th, 2014 04:48 pm (UTC)
That story about actually acquitting a guy for robbing a car because the keys were still inside is killing me softly.
vjs2259vjs2259 on February 6th, 2014 06:32 pm (UTC)
Well, the man arrested claimed he borrowed it from a friend. The part about the keys being in it was important because it wasn't hot-wired or the steering column jacked open so how could he know it was stolen? Friend loans you wheels, has the keys and gives them to you. Would you check the registration in that case? The cops couldn't find the friend to confirm or deny his story. He pretty obviously stole it or knew it was stolen, from his behavior and attitude, but Reasonable Doubt is a bitch.

I'll never forget his smile and thanking us when we had to let him off.

Edited at 2014-02-06 06:33 pm (UTC)
Martinela_loony on February 3rd, 2014 10:37 am (UTC)
Almost fell out of my chair last night when I read the news. So sad for his family :(

I've stayed away from reading anybody elses comments after I saw Cate Blanchetts. That was enough for me already.
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on February 3rd, 2014 04:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I am incredibly disappointed in her. I thought she had more integrity than that. It's hard for me to judge everyone who works with him as that is an incredibly long list of people, but you don't have to like everyone you work with. Hollywood is such an insular place, though, and I guess she didn't want to make waves. Still, disappointing.
Martinela_loony on February 3rd, 2014 05:00 pm (UTC)
I side eye the bigger names tbh because I think they have more of a choice who they work with.
Ngl I'm always side eyeing myself because I do like a bunch of his movies and I'm not sure what to think of myself because of that.
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on February 5th, 2014 03:15 am (UTC)
Yeah, I know. I feel the same way with Roman Polanski. At least with Polanski he pled guilty, so at least there's not this stupid online witch hunt in support of him. You still have to deal with him escaping justice, but he gets to die with "convicted child rapist" next to him name, and that works out all right by me.
Martinela_loony on February 5th, 2014 09:32 am (UTC)
Exactly. Since I know about all this I actually don't see his films in the theater anymore (well the only one I saw was Carnage anyway and I didn't know it was a Polanski film till afterwards).
Ms Dref: Voyager - B'ellanadref22 on February 3rd, 2014 11:18 pm (UTC)
I'm seriously sad about PSH. He was one of those actors who never failed. :( I hate how addiction is basically a fatal illness.
Shannonkungfuwaynewho on February 5th, 2014 03:16 am (UTC)
I'm still just incredibly sad about it. Every time I see something about it, it's like I'd forgotten, just a little bit, and then it's like I'm hearing about it for the first time all over again. Sigh.