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15 January 2011 @ 09:51 am
Question about ships. (Not the sailing kind.)  
I wrote this big long entry about how I haven't been able to write any fic in awhile, beyond a few crappy paragraphs here and there, but it was boring and whiny even to me.  I was rereading for typos before posting and I was like, shit, this is the epitome of no1curr.

So instead I am going to ask a fandom-nonspecific question, in the hope that the answers will help me figure something else out.  And, you know, be interesting to read besides.

What is your all-time favorite ship?  Why?  And what was the moment/scene/episode that made you feel really invested in that relationship?  And if you can't narrow it down to one, just write about two or three.  (But not, like, ten.  Commit, you wishy-washy girl.)  (Unless you're a boy.)  (Do any boys even read this?)

It occurs to me that I should get the ball rolling.  As much as I've greatly loved other ships since, and as much as it's hard to really be objective about the whole thing, I'd have to say that ship that meant the most to me in general - though certainly not right at this moment - would be Mulder and Scully from The X-Files.  It wasn't my first ship (that would be Link and Zelda, tyvm), but XF in general was a show that aired at a critical time in my life.  I was 11 when it started, and 20 when it ended.  So many of my dramatic sensibilities were formed by that show - what kind of stories I enjoy, how I like them being told, my expectations as far as quality goes, my love of shows that can experiment and defy their own premise, and so on.  But most of all, the relationship between Mulder and Scully was an important one for me.  I prefer ships that start off with a foundation of respect, and trust, and actual friendship.  I'll never be that interested in two people meeting who seem to immediately fall in love without even knowing each other, for instance.  Or relationships that start with lust and proceed from there.

Most importantly, I think, Mulder/Scully for me is all about the absolute equality in the relationship.  For every time he saves her from danger, she saves him right back.  Where one is strong, the other is weak, and they hold each other up.  They might have disagreements but they don't belittle each other, or treat each other cruelly.  That's what I want to see in a ship, even if it means foregoing manufactured ship drama.  (Actually, especially if it means forgoing any of that.)  And the first time I really knew that I needed them to be together would have been the Duane Berry arc - Scully is abducted and Mulder cannot save her, and has to hope against ever increasing odds that she'll return to him alive.  It was the first time that there was the sense that they didn't just respect each other and depend on each other, and maybe be attracted to each other - Mulder was lost without her.  He could not function.  And to need someone else like that is pretty heady stuff.
 
 
 
vjs2259: v_day cutoutvjs2259 on January 15th, 2011 07:53 pm (UTC)
I have odd ones, cause altho I've been fannish since a wee one (I mean, Lost in Space and Dark Shadows, followed by original Trek) I've never been much of a shipper. I hope we're including books and RL.

High School--
1. John and Abigail Adams (power couples turn me on, equal partnerships make me melt. R gave me a collection of their letters.)

College--
2. Andrew and Callista/Damon and Ellemir, Spell Sword and Forbidden Tower, Darkover series, Marion Zimmer Bradley (i loved them so very much. telepathy, femslash, and foursomes ftw! i have signed copies of the books.)

Graduate School--
3. Frank and Joyce, Hill Street Blues (hidden love, power and equality, and omg bubble baths. my ex and i had a date to watch the show over the phone every week. pre-skype, people.)

post-Graduate School
4. Vincent and Catherine, Beauty and the Beast (i found every locale in Central Park that they filmed. sometimes i lingered at the gates to the tunnels. the ex and i double-date watched this and ST:TNG with another couple every week.)

Present--
5. John and Delenn (only found the series in 2005, so a new/ongoing one for me. this ship opened the gates to writing for me, so ever grateful for that.)
Shannon: squeekungfuwaynewho on January 15th, 2011 08:17 pm (UTC)
OMG, I remember being very invested in Vincent and Catherine when I watched it. Wow. I hadn't thought about that in years. I hope you're happy - I'm probably going to have to check out some Beauty and the Beast from the library now!

You've also just convinced me to move Marion Zimmer Bradley further up my "to read" list.
vjs2259vjs2259 on January 15th, 2011 09:56 pm (UTC)
I have seasons one and three of BaTB (yuk on S3, but my mum meant well) on dvd. It doesn't hold up as well as I'd hoped, but I have watched Shades of Gray three times now so there's something there. I do love the atmosphere and the poetry.

I'm not too sure MZB would hold up either. Stick to the early original Darkover and you're probably safe. (That is written order, not story order, cause she flitted back and forth like whoa). I met her just before she died; strange little woman. Liked her though.
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vjs2259vjs2259 on January 15th, 2011 09:58 pm (UTC)
And fun it was! At least for a while. I had no idea the actors were gay, although it is not a surprising fact. I don't tend to follow actors; the characters are who/what I love. I did squee a bit when Daniel Travanti showed up in Criminal Minds. But then I squeed when Talia showed up too!